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NOTE: This is strictly about comics, not animation (though I do prefer DC over Marvel in animation, especially recently, too) or the films.

You know, there was a time I thought myself above Fandom Rivalry crap with DC and Marvel, but over the past year or so, I've come to realize that if I were forced to chose, I'd have to DC over Marvel. This boils down to three things.

* My first exposure to superheroes was DC.  My first exposure to superheroes with with the 1989 Batman film and reruns of the '60s Batman series, I recall seeing an episode of the Swamp Thing series as a kid, and my first comics were DC (one issue of the second Robin miniseries and an issue my uncle had to the Funeral for a Friend potion of The Death of Superman). I'm pretty sure I was exposed to the Fleischer Superman cartoon, and I did watch Batman: TAS as a kid. While I did watch the Marvel cartoons as a kid, it doesn't change the fact that my first exposure was with DC.
* DC didn't nearly destroy the comics industry with its crap.  While as SF Debris at his miniseries The Rise of Fall of the Comics Empire points out that DC might as well be called "Dick Comics" for how they've treated creators in the past, anyone who's seen that series will also know that Marvel and Image nearly destroyed the comics industry with their bullshit. Say what ever you will about DC and they did (and still do) have the safety blanket of being part of the Time Warner family, but at least their actions didn't nearly destroy themselves, nor nearly bring the entire comics industry down with them. And yes, Marvel does have a similar blanket now that they're part of Disney, they didn't then; the actions taken by the management landed Marvel in bankruptcy, nearly destroyed the company and, along with Image's crap, it also nearly took the comics industry down with them.
* Rebirth shows that DC seems to be learning from its mistakes. From the sounds of things, DC Rebirth seems to be a realization that the course they were on with the New 52, and even before then, wasn't working. Let's be honest, DC's produced a lot of crap and since around the time of Graduation Day and Identity Crisis, DC has made a lot of stupid and unpopular decisions and from the sounds of Rebirth, there's a sense of "This direction we've been on for 13-14 years isn't really working, is it? Maybe we should change that." Conversely, Marvel has to know that a lot of the stuff done since Quesada first took over as Editor-in-Chief, including, One More Day, Avengers Assembled, House of M, Avengers vs. X-Men, Inhumans vs. X-Men, Civil War I and II, and even aspects of Grant Morrison's New X-Men are unpopular, yet rather than try to fix many of the mistakes, Marvel has decided to stay the course--even though many fans hate the course and it isn't working.
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TroytheDinosaur Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You know, every few years since the 2000s the tables always seem to turning between DC and Marvel in terms of quality and taste, First DC was king then Marvel was the jester, then the jester that is Marvel took the crown upon himself after the king went mad, then suddenly the king's son introduced himself took back the throne.

I like Marvel, don't get me wrong, but there's just something more endearing about DC (for the most part) that even if Marvel does manage to mimic, it's still not as strong an influence as with DC itself.
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:iconanicomicgeek:
Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
That's true, I suppose.:nod:
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:icontroythedinosaur:
TroytheDinosaur Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think it comes down to tone and atmosphere; DC comics are about sci-fi, magic, and have character who you can look up to, while Marvel explores more real-life circumstances with characters who you can relate to. That is a bit subjective of course since Marvel has it's own fair share of whimsical and enchanting sci-fi and magic themes, and you can just as well look up to those characters as you can even relate to characters from DC.

Though because they tend to explore more reality-based subjects like prejudice, politics and other themes, Marvel tends to be a bit darker with their stories in terms of more thematic storytelling, since in real life there are no easy answers. Again DC has had it's own fare share of telling dark stories, but non in the same vein as Marvel when it comes to politics or even personal domestic circumstances; though maybe that's why I prefer DC more, not because I can't stand real-life elements in stories, but because it's much more good to engage in something more uplifting, charismatic and escapist, and express morals that hold closer to home.
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
All good points.:nod:
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:iconlb-artwork:
LB-Artwork Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Student General Artist
I can understand most of that perspective; generally I favour Marvel for the same reason as the first (first introduced to superheroes via Spider-Man, then first got seriously invested in them via X-Men, with the majority of my favourite characters being Avengers), so I get the preferential that would give for that. And, yeah, the 90s were baaaaaad, I don't think anyone in their right mind would disagree.
To be fair on the third point though, Marvel have made the same kind of change that Rebirth has made to the line in the past as well. I mean, for starters Rebirth isn't perfect; its fixed the Flash, Superman, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman, Titans, and probably others, but Justice League is a mess still and outside of Nightwing most of the Batman stuff isn't particularly hot (for instance, killing off Tim Drake (even if he's not really dead), and giving Steph a face-heel turn (why....?), not to mention restoring the Birds of Prey but retconning out the majority of their history (including the entirety of Gail Simone's run, when the book was at its best)).
But also, that's basically how the Marvel Now and All-New/All-Different relaunches worked. For the most part, the entire line has been really strong, but with some really bad books (Spider-Man, GotG, Hickman's Avengers, etc) while the rest are all really good. The only real issue they've had is continued the events, but even those have dialled down; hell, IvX actually goes out of its way to subvert the previous hero-vs-hero event (and save for Emma Frost going off the rails, actually seems to be a pretty solid story), and even the controversial HYDRA!Cap book is actually really good if you get past the controversy (as I've said before, its like Superior Spider-Man done right, taking inspiration from the Skrull!Cap story arc in EMH). Really, the main issue with Marvel is that the stuff they've done wrong ends up being inflated and talked about, but the stuff they've been doing right nobody talks about right now.
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm in the camp that's still not happy about HYDRA!Cap, though, and part of what they did do rubs me the wrong way, as many people have pointed out, what the did with Scarlet Witch and Bishop kind-of ignore what'd been their biggest strong suit.
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LB-Artwork Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Student General Artist
I can understand that, though again, I don't think its really any worse than things that have happened even in the Rebirth era of DC (for instance, while not nearly as iconic as Steve, Detective Comics has had Stephanie Brown and Jacob Kane turn into villains for ill-defined reasons, while Steve at least is just brainwashed, something that will be undone by the end of the year).
I agree completely that Rebirth is a vast improvement and a sign of DC recognising their problems and actively trying to change, but I don't think Marvel are objectively worse than DC right now since they've been trying to do the same thing for far longer, and problems people still have with Marvel are still present in Rebirth.
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, that's true.  Hopefully, those will be sorted out over the course of Rebirth, though given they're still dealing with learning about what Manhattan did.
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LB-Artwork Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Student General Artist
I imagine some things being resolved once Rebirth actually picks up the Watchmen/Manhattan plot, but its an odd thing that people are calling Rebirth an 'easier' jumping on point since, really, its still leaving past continuity a question since we now don't know how much of Post Crisis is canon again and how much of the N52 is out of canon, and we don't know what's actually going on with Manhattan. I mean, don't get me wrong I think a lot of the current directions are really great, and I personally don't find the question of continuity intimidating, but I also don't think Marvel's currently as off-putting as people keep saying it is.
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I suppose a lot of DC fans, myself included, have gotten used to continuity being a quagmire.
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LB-Artwork Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Student General Artist
Which, honestly, I think is probably the healthiest approach. I mean, after 70 years of stories with multiple reboots, continuity probably shouldn't be a big deal to people.
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AdrenalineRush1996 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017
Some good factual statements like Image was responsible for the decline of the comic book industry with Marvel that resulted in the latter's bankruptcy since ironically, Image was founded by ex-Marvel alumni and had a crossover that began the decline with Valiant, which was founded by ex-Marvel EIC Jim Shooter.
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
That's true, though the general jackassey of Liefeld didn't help.:nod:
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AdrenalineRush1996 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017
And you can see why the Nineties was not a good time for the comic book industry.
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Mixedfan8643 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
Yeah, that's something else that Marvel Zombies can choke on. If Marvel is SOOOOO much better than DC then why did Marvel nearly kill comics as a whole? =P

That aside, it's interesting to read why you prefer DC over Marvel. ^^ I have similar reasons for prefering DC myself. :)
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks.:)
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:iconmixedfan8643:
Mixedfan8643 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2017  Hobbyist Filmographer
Welcome. :D
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Tails-2-Me Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017
Sounds quite good, and interestingly enough, Batman's comics would've been cancelled in the 60s but was saved by the TV show. That was a bold move by DC and WB back then to go that route with Bats and it worked :)

And yeah, part of DC's problems was the relationship with the writers and Dan Didio didn't help when he gotten pretty rude towards a fan that pointed out the mistakes of the New52. So let's hope they stay on the current course they're taking :)
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:iconanicomicgeek:
Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you.:)
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Tails-2-Me Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017
YW ^^
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Owl-Eye-2010 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Sounds pretty accurate to me. I guess you could also add that DC, for better or worse, offers more legit starting points for new fans than Marvel does.
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Anicomicgeek Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
There is that.
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